There are things that need to be said about the violence in Dundee city centre at the weekend so remedies can be discussed in an informed way.

I read all the reports, responses from authorities, and reader comments.

Some people are very naive.

I’ve been a football supporter all my life and in my teen years had many a raucous visit – via bus or special train – to Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Paisley and Airdrie.

On an away day you stuck with your team’s supporters. Being on your own was highly dangerous.

But a group of fans in enemy territory draws trouble.

I’ve seen ambushes, mass fights, and challenges issued and answered – one top boy against another.

I’ve seen mob mentality close up

I’ve dodged missiles and seen weapons carried. I’ve run from the Love Street Division, Section B, and the North Glasgow........

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