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Last night at around midnight I was flicking through YouTube and came across the latest News Agents podcast, in which Lewis Goodall interviews Wes Streeting for 90 minutes.

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Wow. What an interview. Wes Streeting was in 100 per cent honest mode and gave Lewis so many newslines that I lost count.

It was a perfect example of how the long-form interview can be an utter revelation. Apart from giving some very blunt assessments of Keir Starmer’s capabilities (or lack of them), he laid out very clearly some of his priorities if he were to take over.

You were left with the impression that he believes something and has a real grounding. Contrast this with the (admittedly shorter) interview Andy Burnham did with Victoria Derbyshire on Thursday’s Newsnight.

He was tetchy and failed to answer some pretty basic questions. Victoria........

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