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Author, Zen teacher, and Jungian psychotherapist Koshin Paley Ellison is a leader in the contemplative medicine movement. With his husband, Robert Chodo Campbell, he co-founded the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care in 2007. He is the author of Untangled: Walking the Eightfold Path to Clarity, Courage, and Compassion, among other books.

Robert Chodo Campbell is a teacher in the Soto Zen tradition who specializes in helping those suffering with the complexities of death and dying, aging, and sobriety. He is on the faculty of the University of Arizona Medical School’s Center for Integrative Medicine.

Mark Matousek: In the Upaddha Sutra, the Buddha tells Ananda that having good friends is "the whole of the holy life." Let's talk about the importance of friendship and spiritual community on a wisdom path.

Robert Chodo Campbell: Koshin is the most awakened one. I’ll leave it to him.

[Laughter]

Koshin Paley Ellison: It’s a beautiful teaching, to do with how the spiritual........

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