Victor Davis Hanson appeared on “The Tony Kinnett Cast” to discuss Democrats, the 2022 election, and more. Watch the interview above or read a transcript, lightly edited for length and clarity.

Tony Kinnett: With all of the burning fires, chaos, and shenanigans—and of course, I’m only talking about Minneapolis with the [Democratic National Committee] right now—we have to go to some of the experts to talk about the times these things have happened before. Because I know right now it looks as though, with things descending into chaos, they may not pull out for particular parties, but some people do, in fact, know better. And one of the guys who knows the best of the better is Victor Davis Hanson. You know him. You love him. We all do. Sir, thanks for joining us.

Victor Davis Hanson: Thank you for having me.

Kinnett: So, I want to get to your latest book, “The End of Everything: How Wars Descend Into Annihilation.” A nice, calm, soothing work, I’m sure. That’s coming out on [Sept.] 2nd.

But before we get to that, I got to ask, the chaos, the cacophony of insanity up in Minneapolis, the screeching about land acknowledgements and trans this and [Minnesota Gov.] Tim Walz yelling about red hats—I got to start to say I’m a little curious as to whether or not the Dems are going to be able to pull themselves together in time for the midterm. I mean, do you see them coalescing around anything at all between now and next November?

Hanson: Well, they only have one unifying theme, and that is they all want to destroy and they hate [President] Donald Trump. So sometimes they hit watermelons. Sometimes they do the filibuster, [Sen.] Cory Booker style. Sometimes they make those obscene videos. Sometimes they kind of go crazy. But otherwise, they’re not offering any counter agenda. They don’t say, “Well, we would prefer this on the border, and here’s what we’re going to do,” or, “Here’s why we should return to the New Green Deal.”

They’re on 30% to 40% of every issue. They don’t own the House or the Senate or the White House or the Supreme Court. They lost the popular vote and the Electoral College—first time since 2004.

So, I think they’re very frustrated, and they’ve got this Jacobin radical base. And I’m not sure that’s the right term for it anymore, base, because I think they’ve taken over the entire party. And what you saw in Minneapolis, whether people like [Sen.] Chuck Schumer or [Rep.] Nancy Pelosi or [Sen.] Elizabeth Warren agree with that doesn’t matter because they condone it and promote it.

And I guess only three times in the last a hundred years has the out party in the first term of administration not won House seats. And because it’s so close, it doesn’t mean even though they’re polling as a party about 28%, they feel they can drive down Donald Trump’s. I don’t think the polls are that accurate. It’s probably more like 50/50 rather than some of these crazy polls that have him down 10. But I think it’s pretty close.

But they feel that the more antics, the more hysteria that they can generate, it’s kind of like collateral damage or a nuclear weapon. It just makes everything so chaotic that they can say, “Trump made us like this. He brought out this. He’s the disruptor.” And you saw that with Tim Walz.

It doesn’t make sense, but they just want to create a general atmosphere that things are chaotic, that there’s no organization to anything, that we’re in the middle of a tumult, and that they’re going to stop that, and that’s what they plan.

Kinnett: So, I see Tim Walz, or I see Sen. Alex Padilla, or one of these—when it was [Rep.] Maxine Waters yelling outside the Department of Education. And I see them trying to push things into this mutually assured destruction, annihilation kind of stuff. But they’re doing so in a way that is really awkward. Like the young lady that Elise [McCue] filmed down at Union Station yelling at the police officer about her keffiyeh.

? Protester argues with BASED police officer who asked if wearing a keffiyah is cultural appropriation:

She says she is “wearing a scarf that is trying to stop a genocide.”

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