The following is a lightly edited transcript of the February 10 episode of the Daily Blast podcast. Listen to it here.

Greg Sargent: This is The Daily Blast from The New Republic, produced and presented by the DSR Network. I’m your host, Greg Sargent.

In the wake of Bad Bunny’s widely acclaimed performance at the Super Bowl, anger from Donald Trump and MAGA has only grown. Trump exploded in rage on Truth Social, and numerous MAGA figures denounced the show as a betrayal of America. This comes amid new signs that Trump is hemorrhaging support from his base, as one polling analyst showed in a remarkable CNN segment. We think these things are all connected. Trump-MAGA fury over a halftime show put on by Bad Bunny, a leading ICE critic, shows that MAGA is deeply out of touch with the American mainstream, and that’s visible in data showing Trump leading working-class support. We’re working through all this today with Adrian Carrasquillo, who covers immigration and Latino culture for The Bulwark. Adrian, great to have you on.

Adrian Carrasquillo: Thanks so much, Greg. It’s really an honor to be on with you.

Sargent: So let’s start with Trump and his base. Listen to this from CNN polling analyst Harry Enten.

Harry Enten (voiceover): Well, Donald Trump’s base with noncollege voters is absolutely collapsing. What are we talking about here? Well, why don’t we just take a look? Voters without a college degree on Donald Trump. Look at this. Back in 2024, he won those voters over Kamala Harris by 14 points. You come over to this side of the screen, what’s his net approval rating with them? He is underwater by nine points. That’s a 23-point switcheroo with his base of noncollege voters; he is absolutely collapsing.

Sargent: So Harry’s using an average of polls there. And he finds that compared to Trump’s 2024 showing with noncollege voters—which is a proxy for working class—he’s now swung 23 points and trails among them by nine.

Adrian, Trump’s coalition relies on the inroads he’s made with nonwhite working-class voters and also on overwhelming support with the white working class. You’ve written about the nonwhite working class. That coalition is really unraveling. Your thoughts on that?

Carrasquillo: Yeah. I mean, on the one hand, of course we understand why we’re here. We all saw what happened November 2024, and we understood the way that our politics reacted to that. On the other hand, what about this would be surprising? Trump is claiming, now, credit for this economy. Who feels good about this economy?

What I have found now when I, when I look at focus groups and when I talk to folks, is that immigration is this really secondary powerful issue—this sort of backstop and this hammer as a second issue—that’s like, Well, wait a second. We’ve seen construction workers say, I thought he was going to help the economy. That’s why I voted for him, because I need my job and I need my finances to to improve—oh wait, that’s not happening?

And then on top of that, he’s going for taxpayers and churchgoers and your kids’ soccer pals’ parents are being disappeared. So now people are just like, Nothing that we signed up for do we want.

And look—and I know that you know this too—when people used to say that they were supportive of mass deportation and maybe numbers in a CBS News poll in the fall of 2024 were 53 or 54 percent, which weren’t huge numbers, but a lot of that was around the Biden border stuff. People were like, The border is porous; I have an issue with this. And we heard that repeatedly over and over again.

But people never knew what interior enforcement was, really. We do this all the time. People did not know that what that meant—that you’re kicking open the door of people who live in these communities. Now that people have seen this and that it has gone not just from the Latino and the immigrant that maybe you have some empathy and compassion for, but literal people in your neighborhoods and U.S. citizens, it has opened the eyes to what this party is doing, what Trump is doing, what MAGA is doing.

And I’ll have Democrats and folks tell me like, This is not good for them for November. I mean, Stephen Miller must know this. Trump must know this. But there’s just this idea that I guess they’re just going to do as much as they can and then come what may and November.

Sargent: Right. It does look that way. Well, into this steps Bad Bunny, who puts on this halftime show that was all in Spanish. Bad Bunny has emerged as a major critic of ICE and an emblem of anti-ICE, pro-immigrant America, really. Before we get to the reaction from Trump and MAGA, can you just give us your thoughts on what you saw in that show and what it maybe meant to a lot of Americans as someone who really covers the intersection of Latino culture and U.S. politics?

Carrasquillo: I mean—I was sort of........

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