20 June 2025, 16:26 | Updated: 20 June 2025, 16:29

By Rachel Johnson

“I don’t care if you call me racist,” says Reform's newest MP Sarah Pochin, in the middle of her first ever podcast, for Difficult Women.

Okaaaay, as we say.

During any interview, you hope for clips. When someone says something fresh and punchy that you can pull out to make a juicy quote for social media, that moves the story on, but not so fresh and punchy it causes problems for the platform that publishes them. Well, there was no shortage of clips in her sit-down with me, for LBC, but my worry was, could we use them without being Ofcommed?

Was Sarah Pochin Britain’s Trump (think of his Mexicans-are-rapist type comments, his mass deportation programme, his bullying ICE tactics) or was this well-presented former Justice of the Peace, and mother of two adult sons, only saying what a lot of people down the Dog and Duck were actually thinking?

Before we got onto the politics of race and the failures of mass immigration, Pochin started strong - by revealing the only sexism she’d encountered in the mother of Parliaments so far had been from…. the Prime Minister.

She accused Sir Keir of refusing to refer to her by name, only calling Mrs Pochin (a former councillor, pillar of the Cheshire community, businesswoman and magistrate before she became an MP) only “she” or “her” rather than by the more dignified conventional appellation, which is, and has been since May 1, The Honourable Member for Runcorn and Helsby.

This narrow victory made her Reform’s first woman MP, but she has already broken other records. She won her seat in a by-election by the smallest margin in electoral history (she overturned........

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