Trump’s War of Choice Will Become a War of Regret

America may be losing more than just the conflict in Iran.

By E.J. Dionne Jr.Carlos Lozada and Robert Siegel

Produced by Derek Arthur

Regardless of how the war with Iran ends, the damage to America’s reputation has already been done, the Opinion columnist Carlos Lozada argues. This week, he joins the contributing Opinion writer E.J. Dionne Jr. and the former “All Things Considered” host Robert Siegel to discuss Trump’s approach to power and the end of America’s role as the leader of the free world.

Trump’s War of Choice Will Become a War of Regret

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Robert Siegel: Hi, I’m Robert Siegel, in conversation about politics with, as always, E.J. Dionne Jr.

E.J. Dionne: Great to be with you always, Robert.

Siegel: And we’re happy to welcome for the first time Times opinion columnist Carlos Lozada.

Carlos Lozada: Longtime listener, first-time caller. Thrilled to be here.

Dionne: Great to be with you, Carlos.

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Carlos Lozada is an Opinion columnist based in Washington, D.C. He is the author, most recently, of “The Washington Book: How to Read Politics and Politicians.”  @CarlosNYT

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