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‘How Many Times Were We Lied To?’ Fauci & Top Officials Under Fire Over COVID Claims

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19.05.2026

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‘How Many Times Were We Lied To?’ Fauci & Top Officials Under Fire Over COVID Claims

Editor’s note: This is a lightly edited transcript of today’s edition of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words” from Daily Signal Senior Contributor Victor Davis Hanson. Subscribe to Victor Davis Hanson’s own YouTube channel to watch past episodes.

Jack Fowler: Okay, Victor, just to torture people further with the sound of my voice, here’s the headline: CIA whistleblower alleges cover-up of COVID-19 lab leak intelligence by scientists who repeatedly concluded that a lab accident caused the COVID-19 pandemic, but more senior bureaucrats watered down and suppressed their conclusions. 

A CIA senior operations officer testified to Congress on Wednesday. His name is James E. Erdman III. He described under oath, in a hearing called by Rand Paul on Wednesday, a pattern of obstruction that promoted the conclusions of a tight-knit group of virologists close to Anthony Fauci, while downplaying the conclusions of the intelligence community’s own biological experts. 

It goes on, Victor. I think most people probably have heard about this. So would you comment on this? And also we’ve talked about before. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who’s been your guest on the podcast, is also up for running this department. Go ahead, please. 

Victor Davis Hanson: Well, what basically was is that Donald Trump came into office in 2017, 2018, and 2019. The economy was booming by November. And then we had this mysterious virus in which all of the medical community, if you remember what Hillary [Clinton] said, she said it was a gift from God because it destroyed the momentum of Donald Trump.  

And then all of the agencies, all of the agencies, the Deep State administrative, whatever you want to call it. And that includes these middle- to high-level CIA people in the Donald Trump first administration. Remember, he said, “I had only been to Washington 10 or 15 times in my life,” and he didn’t really know that it was not just a—there was no really Democratic-Republican antithesis as far as the bureaucracy. It was all Left.  

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And he got people in there. They’re fine people: Bill Barr, John Bolton, Jim Mattis I know, John Kelly, you name them. But they were not ideologically akin to what he wanted.  

And they........

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