When Canada's 'tolerance and diversity' clashes with Sikh 'radicalism'
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‘Are we so woke ... that we actually ignore someone preaching violence, right in our midst?’ asks former B.C. premier Ujjal Dosanjh
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At the beginning of the week, Mark Carney signed off on “One Earth, One Family, One Future,” a partnership agreement with his Indian counterpart, Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
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The diplomatic row between the countries has given way to the realpolitik of global conflict; the agreement is packed with hifalutin language and aspirational blather. You wouldn’t know there had been a serious breakdown prior to Carney’s visit.
“Yeah, it’s two different worlds,” says 79-year-old Ujjal Dosanjh, a Sikh from India who emigrated to Canada in 1968 and later became B.C. premier and a federal cabinet minister.
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“But the fact is,” he adds, “India is a civilizational country, right? It’s an ancient civilization, just like Iran.” Indians, when they talk to each other, even the most technically educated people, he says with a grin, they speak in a philosophical way. Modi, he says, infuses all the speeches he delivers with Indian philosophy.
Carney is a money guy, I observe, with a more transactional tone. Ottawa’s talking points emphasize the aspiration to more than double two-way trade with India, to $70 billion, by 2030. A landmark $2.6-billion deal signed by Saskatoon-based Cameco, to deliver uranium to India, was announced as part of a wider energy partnership that contemplates liquefied natural gas (LNG), liquefied petroleum gas (LPG), oil and hydrogen exports to India.
In an earlier conversation, in 2024, Ujjal made it clear to me he was no fan of Carney’s predecessor, Justin Trudeau, bluntly declaring, “Trudeau, sociologically and politically, is an idiot.” In our tete-de-tete this week, Ujjal is upbeat, effusive even, about former banker Carney.
India is a logical place for Canada to engage, Ujjal reports: “In the next couple of years, it’s going to be the third largest economy in the world … It has demand for energy, for gas, for oil. It has need for uranium, because they want to have civilian nuclear energy, because they need lots of electricity.
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“It is also a place where we can cooperate on rare earth minerals, because India would have the capacity to process them. India has the capacity to manufacture, because it has labour force, it has skills, and perhaps even defence manufacturing that we actually should start doing our own as Canadians.
“Europe doesn’t have the manufacturing capacity,” he elaborates, “they don’t have the huge army of men and women who want to work. So India has it.
“If it’s a democracy, perhaps flawed,” he asks, “why not have joint ventures with them where they can manufacture our defensive equipment?”
What Ujjal says makes sense. My only quibble is Ottawa’s foot-dragging on pipeline construction needed to deliver oil and gas to India, a country that might now be starved for energy with the Strait of Hormuz blocked and Russian oil officially off-limits.
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Neither of us can resist speculating on where India will access oil in the near term; some hint Trump is encouraging Modi to look at Venezuelan crude while others predict India’s return to Russian oil.
But really, who knows? “You have to feed your people,” Ujjal concludes, “And if you are the leader of 1.4 billion people, you can’t kowtow to anyone. You just have to feed them.”
There’s a solid foundation of pragmatism under all this lofty rhetoric, I chuckle, stepping down from my pipeline soapbox. “I’m always on my soapbox,” Ujjal counters. “I don’t know why, though. I’m no longer interested in getting elected, but I just can’t resist saying things because it bothers me we’ve not done a very good job of protecting and promoting Canada as we should have.”
This is exactly why I want to speak to this man. He’s a Sikh who openly condemns extremist activism — on Canadian soil — for a separate Sikh homeland in Punjab, India, to be called Khalistan. And while he says he detests India’s alleged interference in Canada, he also suggests pro-Khalistani activism in Canada is the biggest source of foreign interference in the internal affairs of India.
“It’s nice for (pro-Khalistanis in Canada) to pretend they are fighting for sovereignty in a peaceful, non-violent fashion,” he asserts, but it’s not the case. “If we’re going to allow that kind of radicalism, to breed within some temples in this country, I would be afraid for our future in this country,” he continues.
“It’s not going to hurt India,” he adds, “India is too big for it be hurt by a tiny fringe in Canada or the U.S.”
“Are we so woke? Are we so taken by this so-called tolerance and diversity … that we actually ignore someone preaching violence, right in our midst?” he asks.
His greatest fear? “There is a generation of youngsters being trained inside some of these temple facilities, to pick up arms in the name of Khalistan.”
One day after we talk, Nancy Grewal — a 45-year-old social media influencer of Punjabi origin who spoke out against Khalistani extremism in Canada — was found stabbed to death in her Windsor, Ont., home. Police call this an isolated incident, but Ujjal sees it differently: “The Canadian politicians and the Canadian police have turned absolutely a blind eye to this; it’s like they’ve condoned it.”
Diplomatic tensions between India and Canada — culminating in accusations of India’s involvement in the 2023 Surrey, B.C., murder of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a Khalistani advocate — now appear to have taken a back seat to trade. “Mr. Nijjar’s alleged assassins are going to be tried soon,” Ujjal says, and he’s comfortable with Carney treating the past diplomatic rupture as compartmentalized and largely resolved.
Canada’s clampdown on international students hit applicants from India hard, and in what looks to be a more strategic approach, the partnership agreement includes a long list of education and research alliances. Ujjal is good with this approach, as long as public education in Canada isn’t being weakened for Canadian students.
“Universities and colleges were becoming addicted to this money that was coming from foreign countries, largely India, China too,” he complains, “and provincial governments were off the hook in providing resources to post-secondary education.”
Ujjal is pleased with Carney’s new approach to Canada-India relations — and to India’s response.
“I think the world knows that India is generally not going to take sides,” he says. “But also, it’s not going to be dictated to by another country in terms of its foreign policy.”
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