‘We Are Going to Deeply Regret This War’

Three journalists on the potential repercussions of Operation Epic Fury.

By Robert SiegelE.J. Dionne Jr. and Mona Charen

Produced by Jillian Weinberger

Will the war with Iran further degrade America’s already strained relationships with its allies? This week, Mona Charen, the policy editor at The Bulwark, joins the contributing Opinion writer E.J. Dionne Jr. and the former “All Things Considered” host Robert Siegel to unpack what the war portends for NATO, for Israel’s image in the United States and for American politics going forward.

‘We Are Going to Deeply Regret This War’

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Robert Siegel: Hi, I’m Robert Siegel, in conversation about politics with two very insightful political writers. Joining me at the New York Times Washington bureau is political writer and author E.J. Dionne Jr.

E.J. Dionne Jr.: Great to be with you.

Siegel: And joining us today is Mona Charen, policy editor at The Bulwark and host of “The Mona Charen Show.”

Mona Charen: Thanks so much.

Siegel: Thanks for joining us. We are recording this on Wednesday, so it’s possible that some of our discussion may be overtaken by events, but I think that our focus today will likely be unrevised for the near future. We’re focusing on relations under stress from the war in Iran.

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