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Gabfest Reads is a monthly series from the hosts of Slate’s Political Gabfest podcast. This month, John Dickerson talks with Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan about their new book Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump. Their conversation explores how Trump makes decisions, how his government is structured, and the fundamentally different way he experiences his second term compared to his first.This partial transcript has been edited and condensed for clarity.

John Dickerson: “Does Donald Trump enjoy the presidency, Jonathan?”

Jonathan Swan: “I think this time around, yeah.”

John Dickerson: “And........

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